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Graham P.Steer
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 Posted - 15 May 2010 : 01:05:36 AM
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Hi Caroline,
I`m back in the UK with lots of new things transcribed for the Witty lineage. Please get in touch.
Best regards
Graham
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Graham P.Steer
Junior Member
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Posted - 15 May 2010 : 01:19:57 AM
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This genealogy was based on early notes made by Bernard Witty and myself before we had completed most of the transcription work of the parish registers of the East Riding. We have since cross-referenced with Wills, Deeds, Quarter Sessions and Manorial Records and in the process have discovered many errors and false assumptions.
We had given a copy of this genealogy to the Mormons and when we asked if we could correct the errors we were told that this was impossible. People interested in the Witty genealogy may have copied this from the mormons and assumed it to be accurate. Unfortunately some of the data is misleading and anyone interested in it should get in touch with me as I have compiled an updated version with corrections.
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caroline
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 May 2010 : 6:20:37 PM
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Hi Graham
Nice to hear from you, have tried to send you an email but it is out of action on here at the moment, am spending some time in Leeds Library, seeing if I can find any more info out. U still a member of Genealogy, I am and did a message to somebody on there the other day and told her to contact this site for help, so you can pick mine up from there if you wish, .
Caroline
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2010 : 12:23:39 AM
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Originally posted by caroline
Ian
Have put my email address in my profile on here as it looks as though you may not be getting it through from Ancestry
Caroline
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Hi Caroline,
Your eMail address can only be seen by the Driffield forum Admin. The eMail address system has been switched off - Something to do with a SPAM attack.
What's your Ancestry UserName? I can probably get a message to you via their message system.
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2010 : 12:34:40 AM
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Originally posted by Graham P.Steer
This genealogy was based on early notes made by Bernard Witty and myself before we had completed most of the transcription work of the parish registers of the East Riding. We have since cross-referenced with Wills, Deeds, Quarter Sessions and Manorial Records and in the process have discovered many errors and false assumptions.
We had given a copy of this genealogy to the Mormons and when we asked if we could correct the errors we were told that this was impossible. People interested in the Witty genealogy may have copied this from the mormons and assumed it to be accurate. Unfortunately some of the data is misleading and anyone interested in it should get in touch with me as I have compiled an updated version with corrections.
Graham
Hi Graham,
I don't think I've contacted you previously but I know your name. I started researching the Witty family some time after the Witty Society was disbanded. Bernard sent me copies of much of his Witty tree research a few years back, which I've transcribed into my database and extended since. I added a new branch only last week.
I'm familiar with the idea that the Mormon Family Search [IGI] database has many errors but the reference to your "updated version with corrections" is intriguing. It would be great to swap notes.
If you are a member of Ancestry perhaps you can contact me via their message system - or, like Caroline, let me have your UserName. Mine is Soanesi
Cheers,
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caroline
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 May 2010 : 09:30:05 AM
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Hi Ian
Ancestry.co.uk user name is cwatkins46 my Witty tree is on there under Pickering which is the married name of Grace Hannah Witty who was born in Selby Workhouse 1892 and died in Bradford in 1957, (my late fathers mother)
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caroline
Average Member
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2010 : 09:33:43 AM
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Ian
Just just had a thought I am local to Leeds City Library, 15 mins away, who hold mostly all records for Yorkshire census and parish records and others, if you require anything looking up that you havent got on your system if it helps.
caroline
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brianmulhall
Above Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 May 2010 : 9:23:07 PM
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I am adding to this lengthy correspondence because (1) as a descendant of Ann Witty (b. 1823), d. of Jane (bapt. 1803), d. of Thomas & Rachel I have a direct interest in the family (2) I have a copy of a Witty history, originally (I believe) from Graham Steere & Bernard Witty, but via Ian Soanes and (3) I would greatly appreciate an updated copy of the Witty history. There still seem to be places, even in my direct line, where the history is not completely clear - two many uses of the same Christian name combined with economical reporting in the Parish Registers - so this is a plea the Graham will make available his researches. I'll send my private email via the administrator - hope it works, for my experience has been how generous people are in sharing their findings.
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kem
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 03:37:11 AM
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Hi. I am currently researching my ancestry and have hit a road block. I have gone back to a Calvin Witty born in North Carolina around 1781. I have not been able to find any info on him. I would love to get any information you may have on the Witty family especially if you have found some info to be incorrect. I have obtained a lot of info from Ancestry. com who I believe is run by the Mormans. Can you please help?
Thanks
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2010 : 4:23:09 PM
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Originally posted by kem
Hi. I am currently researching my ancestry and have hit a road block. I have gone back to a Calvin Witty born in North Carolina around 1781. I have not been able to find any info on him. I would love to get any information you may have on the Witty family especially if you have found some info to be incorrect. I have obtained a lot of info from Ancestry. com who I believe is run by the Mormans. Can you please help?
Thanks
Kara
The earliest emigration to the USA from the East Yorkshire Witty family that I can find was around 1833, although I guess there may have been earlier emigrations. There are also some 19th century emigrations to Canada, but again none that I can find which pre-date the 1781 birth of your Calvin Witty.
I understand that there were some Witty families in Ireland. Perhaps Calvin Witty has Irish ancestry?
Let's hope that other Witty researchers will read your posting and make a link.
Regards,
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Peter6
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2010 : 3:44:55 PM
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Hi Ian,
I came across the following while doing some research and I thought it might be of some interest !
June 23, 1883
Tom Simpson, foreman for Mr Jabez Witty, farmer, Middleton, was summoned by Aaron Moody, a lad in the same service, for assaulting him. Complainant said Simpson charged him with beating a horse in the stable and because he told him it was a lie he knocked him down and kicked him, swelling his lips and causing a large wound on the side of his head. – Fined 1s and 16s costs.
The boy Moody was summoned by his employer for disobeying orders, but the Bench dismissed the case.
Source: Driffield Times
Regards,
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2010 : 10:17:31 PM
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TomW
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 01:23:22 AM
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I've been researching my lineage for some time now, and it seems that I've reached a dead end which I am hoping can be overcome here.
I am descended from Thomas Joseph Witty, who came over to the United States with his son Edward. Thomas Joseph's father was Thomas Witty, a woodcarver who was born in approx. 1844 in Northumberland. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to directly connect him to any ancestors older than this date, and as I live in the U.S., I cannot cross the pond to continue the research locally. If it's possible to make any connection to the many Wittys listed here, I would be very appreciative. Thank you!
-Tom Witty
I have an update. I was able to acquire a copy of the birth certificate for Thomas Witty, born 1844.
According to the certificate, Thomas Witty was born August 13th, 1844 at Concord Court in the sub-district of All Saints within Newcastle-upon-Tyne. His father was named Thomas Witty and was a tailor. His mother was Elizabeth Witty (maiden name Anderson). Looking through some older censuses, I believe that Concord Court may have been where Elizabeth's family was from, as there are Andersons living there in the years around this time. Unfortunately, finding out more about Thomas's father Thomas has proven yet another dead end.
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 4:42:09 PM
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Tom,
I constructed some of your Newcastle Witty family after your previous post in an effort to find a link to the Middleton Wittys - unfortunately without success.
[NB: As you say, Thomas Witty's mother is Elizabeth Anderson (b. c 1802 Hexham). There is a longstanding Anderson family in Middleton - I wonder if the Andersons are also connected somehow?]
Thomas Witty (b. 1844) married Mary Mulharron (b. c1842 Ireland) in 1867. They had at least 5 children before Mary died in the June quarter of 1881, possibly while giving birth to Francis Witty or shortly afterwards. Thomas married Margaret Baty (b. c1851 Ovingham, Prudhoe, Northumberland) in 1882. They had at least 2 children before moving to London, with these 2 children plus one of Mary's surviving children, leaving Thomas Joseph Witty in Newcastle. On 17 Oct 1882 Thomas Joseph had commenced a 6.5 year apprenticeship with Black Hawthorne and Co. as an Engine Fitter and Erector. As you probably know, Thomas Joseph married Mary Westle in 1890 and they and their son Edward emigrated to the USA in 1913.
Thomas Witty (senior) died in 1916 in Kensington, London, England. Margaret probably died in 1922 in Islington, London, England.
I still can't find anything more about Thomas Witty (b. c1800).
However, there is yet another Thomas Witty in the area. Thomas Witty (b. c1801 Slaley, Hexham, Northumberland, England) married Frances Charlton (b. c1804 Hexham) on 20 Dec 1829 at Slaley. They appear to have had a single daughter, Mary (b. c1833). I haven't found a connection between Thomas Witty (b. c1800) Thomas Witty (b. 1844) but I mention this other family as in 1841 Thomas, Frances and Mary are living at "Well House", Slaley, Hexham, Northumberland, next door to "Witty House", where a family called Ellison are living. By 1851 they have moved into "Witty House" itself. I wonder if this is another Witty ancestral home?
Regards,
Ian
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Graham P.Steer
Junior Member
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 11:23:17 PM
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Caroline,
I am back in the UK but going to Brazil to work for 7 weeks Sept-Nov 2010, so I can be of assistance until I go and after I come back. It would be great to catch up and I could tell you what research I`ve done since 1997.
Hope to hear from you soon,
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Graham P.Steer
Junior Member
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 11:31:13 PM
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Brian,
I`d be delighted to try and find your ancestors in my research records. I am currently in the throes of writing it up as a book but of course that will take time. Meanwhile I might (with help) be able to set up a website. I need to clear everything with the others who assisted me in my research over the years.
I live in London but frequently visit Beverley and Hull.
Please send me a message if interested.
Graham
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caroline
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 10:55:57 AM
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Graham, You and your journeys are a story in their own right. Yes it would be great to catch up with you and learn which you have found out. I am still in Cleckheaton, ce.watkins@btinternet.com, have a good time and dont work to hard.
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