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Galadriel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 28 Dec 2007 : 10:48:59 PM
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| I have just written to Greg Knight and asked him to read the Driffield Online website regarding the Alfred Bean. Let's see if we get anywhere! |
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
895 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2008 : 11:51:35 AM
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I have sent this to the PCT and DH :
Could you please answer the following questions:
1. Do you think it is an acceptable standard of care for people in the Driffield area having to travel to the A/E at Scarborough Hospital to be seen by a doctor. After being seen they then have to find their own way home irrespective of their personal health and safety?
2. Why are you closing the in patient beds at Driffield that are mostly used as respite care beds for people who cannot receive care in their own home?
3. If you close these beds where will this type of patient receive this care?
4. Why does Driffield need a clinic and not an hospital for a growing community? |
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
895 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jan 2008 : 8:32:55 PM
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| Just to let you know that the PCT acknowledged my letter this week. Awaiting reply with interest. |
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Galadriel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
203 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jan 2008 : 10:52:21 PM
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| Greg Knight's secretary also confirmed receipt of my e-mail and hopefully he will look at the Driffield online website and see how disgruntled we all are about the PCT and what's happening to the Alfred Bean. So come on everybody get complaining!!!! |
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slimjim
Average Member
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Posted - 18 Jan 2008 : 11:38:34 PM
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Am i missing something here???
quote:
"The future of the national health service means that patients will have more power over the decisions that affect their lives: decisions about where they have their treatment, the times at which they have their treatment, and with whom they have their treatment. That is an important element of the next stage of the development of the health service. However, it is also important for patients to have information about what is happening in their local hospitals and health areas."
"One of the next stages of reform—and Professor Darzi is looking into exactly this—is how more information can be made available to patients, and how more patients can become foundation trust members, and how the flow of information can empower patients in a way that gives them more control over their health and their health care. That is the right direction for the 21st century health service."
Gordon Brown MP - Prime Minister's Questions - 9th January 2008
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jan 2008 : 07:44:23 AM
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| How the heck can us locals become trust members when we will have no local health service to relate too and just how doe this empower us to do anything? |
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
895 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2008 : 10:29:08 PM
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I received a reply to my letter dated 18 Jan 2008.
My first question was do you think that patients taken to Scarborough
Hospitals A/E Dept are then abandoned to find their own way home with a disregard to their health and safety?
They did not answer this.
The questions related to the termination of inpatient beds at driffield created more questions. In patients will be placed in residential and nursing homes, they did not elaborate where. They also reasured me that in patient beds would stay in driffield until the new " Community Hospital was built in Beverley". Lets hope it is better run than Bridlington. Oh yes and the community nurses will be caring for patients in their own home. Well fidle-de-de. |
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nell
Senior Member Member
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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 : 11:37:23 PM
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Your letter didn't go something like this did it Plook? they didn't answer my questions either!
Alfred Bean Hospital
Thank you for your e-mail dated 7 January 2007 expressing your concerns for the future of Alfred Bean Hospital, Driffield.
Firstly I want to reassure you that there is a secure healthy future for Alfred Bean Hospital. The East Riding of Yorkshire PCT has recently secured significant funding for our three highest priority schemes which includes substantial refurbishment of the Alfred Bean Hospital over the next 3-4 years.
The PCT has listened to the many views expressed about the future of community hospitals during the public consultation last year. We appreciate that patient will be anxious about the proposed changes and would like to reassure you that no community beds will be withdrawn until new services are in place to replace them.
As part of the refurbishment of the Alfred Bean Hospital a range of first class health facilities will be provided in the Driffield area including:
• Outpatient facilities/services in conjunction with Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust and Scarborough and North East Yorkshire Healthcare NHS Trust.
• Day hospital services
• Facilities to undertake minor treatments
• A base for community healthcare, mental healthcare and social services neighbourhood teams
• More physiotherapy, occupation therapy and podiatry services
Secondly, although it is our intention that NHS provided in-patient services will no longer be provided from the Alfred Bean Hospital site, we will commission (or purchase) NHS funded beds from local independent care homes if needed, support by neighbourhood teams. I would like to reassure you that the beds at Alfred Bean Hospital will remain until the new Beverley Community Hospital has been completed and is operational in order to ensure that there continues to be enough capacity across the PCT area.
Our proposals represent a significant investment in community services and will mean better access to good quality health services closer to home, for residents across the area including in Driffield.
I hope that this information answers you queries, if I cam assist further please do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours sincerely
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DF
Senior Member Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 2:57:56 PM
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Originally posted by plook
I received a reply to my letter dated 18 Jan 2008.
My first question was do you think that patients taken to Scarborough
Hospitals A/E Dept are then abandoned to find their own way home with a disregard to their health and safety?
They did not answer this.
The questions related to the termination of inpatient beds at driffield created more questions. In patients will be placed in residential and nursing homes, they did not elaborate where. They also reasured me that in patient beds would stay in driffield until the new " Community Hospital was built in Beverley". Lets hope it is better run than Bridlington. Oh yes and the community nurses will be caring for patients in their own home. Well fidle-de-de.
Nor do they mention that the afore said community nurses will first have to travel to Hull to be given their jobs, then travel to all points N.S.E.& W of the county (including Goole)to perform their tasks, after which they will be expected to return to Hull to sign off. I know because a member of my family (who originally worked at Bridlington, where the ward they have closed is still being rented from the Scarborough Trust until 2010 by the East Riding P.C. Trust) has been doing this - AND THE TRUST THINK THEY ARE SAVING MONEY!!!!
Talk about "Beer ups and breweries"!!!! |
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Galadriel
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
203 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2008 : 11:14:16 PM
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Ok I got my reply from Greg Knight part of which I include as follows:
'It is quite clear that the financial position of local trusts particularly where a deficit is involved is distorting their decision making process, in my view........ I also suspect the government are using financial pressure to force trusts to move towards centralisation of health services with many district hospitals now being under threat......... I have to say that I have very little confidence in the current NHS managers locally, particularly as they appear to be willing to embrace cutbacks rather than seeking to obtain public support for a resolution of their financial problems by the injection of much needed extra resources........ What makes matters worse is that on the 22nd Nov 07 it was revealed that as much as £1.8 billion will be left unspent by the NHS this year....' |
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
895 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 11:09:34 PM
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Parts of my reply was similar to Nells. My first question they did not answer which was : Do you think that sending people to Scarborough Hospital for Emergency Treatment then once the treatment is given allowing the patient to be abandond and to find their own way home irespective of their personal health and safety is an acceptable standard of care?
Their reply generated more questionsie people who use the Alfed Bean Hospital for respite care will be transferred to privately owen nursing homes- I asked if that would be in Driffield or anywhee within the East Riding? Where they aware that respite care was used in this manner precisely because patients did not wish to go into residential care.
The reply I got was in blue and black ink like a round robin!
What realy p----s me off is the jobs-worth bull sh_t that they churn out and us peasants are supposed to go along with this. Its both patronising and unjust.Gladriels correct in stating that the "managers" are like sheep dont protect the patient, dont support the community they serve and they haven't one inteligent sparking neuron in their comined brains that demonsrates compassion. And who picks up the pieces the nurses and other health care workers that they profess they are to majic into these posts.
Keep up the pressure, write to the DHS, Alan Johnson, Local MP and the PCT. |
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kroggy
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 5:59:05 PM
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Had to use the services of the Alfred Bean recently, my son had a bulging fracture (compressed) due to falling off his skate board. The services by ALL the staff was fantastic, and when I inquired “was it always this busy on a Thursday” the reply was “its always like this everyday”.
I can't believe that the services this hospital provides should be axed by some politician serving from a parliamentary seat (no doubt with two house allowance) down in London.
The politicians are out of touch with the basic needs for developing towns and cities, specialist hospitals ARE a must but not to the demise of those that serve the general public on a daily basis.
A big thank you to ALL the staff at Alfred Bean
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
895 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2008 : 09:45:17 AM
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Most nurses and other staff do their best but work under specific constraints that are imposed centraly and are monitored by the jobs worths. I'm glad you got boy got excellent care. However if your accident had taken place after 6pm you would have had to travel to Hull A/E or Scarborough.
If you were elderley and not a car driver you can see how stressful and upsetting it can be. Greg Knight MP says that the Government are centralising services. Speciality services such as Intensive Care, Neurosurgery, burns, cardio-thoracic surgery etc have always been centralised and patients have had to travel sometimes a distance to receive this type of treatment.This is acceptable. However the majority of the public wish to receive Emergency Services as near to their homes as is possible 24/7, they wish to receive maternity care localy, respite care localy.
What "Big Brother" seems not to understand is that care should be patient centred not institutionalised. The East Riding of Yorkshire Health Care Stratergy should be designed for the current and future health care needs that is based on evidence. The current situation is that Scarborough NHS Trust, the care providers for Bridlington Hospital and the population it serves are devoid of imagination, the ablity to listen, compromise or develop a stratergy for health care that the people it serves wants, as demonsrated by the recent resignation of their Chief Executive and side-kick accountant once again-bet they got a good pay-off.
Turn Bridlington Hospital into a Poly-Clinic with inpatient beds for elderly care, coronary care and maternity and operate a 24/7 A/E department bring it under the management of East Yorkshire NHS Trust away from the Scarborough NHS Trust in North Yorkshire who doesn't seem able to manage a booze up in a brewery. Do the same for Driffields Alfred Bean Hospital and keep inpatient beds and the same for Beverley and Hornsea on a greater or lesser scale. This is what is needed by the people that live localy in these areas as this site often demonstrates.
I wonder if the Accountants have ever spoken to a patients, I dont mean at the stage managed events organised by the PCTs to pacify the peasants and uniions, but sat in clinics gone into residental homes and thought would I like to be cared for in this environment?........
As someone who recently was admitted to a district General Hospital, the care was adiquate but not patient centred, the care was institutionalised and care delivery was task orientated exactly what it was like in the 1960's . Doctors and nurses did not work together as a team. |
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pedro
Average Member
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Posted - 20 Jul 2008 : 6:25:18 PM
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The closure of any local hospital should be vigorously defended no matter where in the country it is. A town of Driffield's size needs hospital facilities increasing not taking away, minor injuries is a must !
Peter. |
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avp
Average Member
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 3:49:10 PM
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| Why, Why, Why take away the only safe secure feeling we have in this ridiculous money war with the overall government. Our local government say We work with the big boys they give us orders! So what is the point of local government? apparently they cannot help us unless they cowtow to Who? What? Tell us we want to know WHY! While we sit and wait for that appointment bus, you know the one that picks you up at nine for your ten appointment but they pick you up at nine forty five from driffield to Scaborough!!!. Oh please give us back a little bit of decorum. We built this situation with the sweat of our forefathers back. Now they tell us it is not a viable move to keep the only safe place on earth when we are in trouble, especially in todays climate of, sorry to say very dangerous happenings we need a close base for all. We are surrounded by villages that need a base for their medical needs. So make us Capital Of The Wolds again!. Catch you later. |
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Mar 2009 : 09:26:54 AM
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| Local Government is made up of the bull-s--t brigade who are their mostly for power and self esteem and conduct their business like herding cats they have no power or very little. Look at the Cattle Market fiasco! that says it all, and planning another shower of nonsense. Its like a cross between the Vicar of Dibley and Dads Army and you could laugh except their ineptitude has a serious effect on ordinary people. Local Government act as a cushion to protect central and regional offices of power ie., Let the people decide-that's fine until the people decide something different to what they want to do, ie., Bridlington Hospital they send down the big boys to tell us what's what and then they bugger off back to London and the "poor" NHS Trust says its out of our hands they should be ashamed. |
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flower
Junior Member
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Posted - 09 Apr 2010 : 11:13:45 AM
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| had occasion to be sent to the Alfred Bean so often referred to as a glorified recoup hospital NOT SO! the nursing staff have medical skills put to use every day. skills that kept me alive to be able to sing their praises. Also consultant care and personal doctor all one to one. The feeling of being close to home because of hospital situ totally in the centre of a busy town and villages that make up capital of the wolds. No excuse for depriving us of this well run facility. |
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plook
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
895 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 09:56:49 AM
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Why run down facilities at Bridlington Hospital hospital then build another hospital 22.3 miles away in Beverley? Where is the joined up thinking? There is none.
As for Driffield well to patients go North or South for care, Bridlington 12,.5 miles away- but might have to go onto Scarborough which is 21 miles away or to Beverley 12.2 miles away or onto Hull 21.6 miles away.
This is fine if you have a car or someone to drive you, otherwise you have to travel by public transport or ambulance.
My advice would be go south if you end up in Hull you will not be discharged to find your own way home at 3 am in the morning.
Many people needing care do not drive and do not have a telephone and relie on the good will of friends.
Helth Care provision in the Driffield area is terrible and a national disgrace- there are local staff including medics prepared to deliver a high standard of care to the community but some onk' in the Department of Health suported by the PCT have decided that Driffield and Bridlington are not a high priority area. I just hope that people who come for hoildays or retirement in these areas are made aware of the deplorable health care facilities available.
My heart goes out to all the staff giving excellent care in Driffield and Bridlington Hospital with the sword of damoclease hanging over their heads.
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