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Margaretkirby
Average Member
21 Posts |
 Posted - 22 Mar 2005 : 12:50:43 PM
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| I am researching the Kirby family of Watton and Hutton Cranswick. They farmed 12 different farms in the Watton Carr area in 19th centuary, also Emswell Wold. The matriach was Richard Kirby who died 3.5.1841 age 49 burried Hutton Cranswick with his wife Maria (Peck) who died 16.7.1876. Anyone related to this family or has information about them can contact me on Drifter84b@yahoo.co.uk, please |
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Ken Holmes
Average Member
Barton,Nth Lincs
25 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2005 : 4:12:08 PM
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I Have Elizabeth Kirby who married Thomas Cranswick at Nafferton in 1817.
Ken Holmes
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kath
Starting Member
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Posted - 15 Jan 2006 : 4:37:00 PM
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Hi Margaret, My grandfather was John Jefferson Kirby, born in Watton son of a farm bailiff also called John Jefferson Kirby and born in Watton about 1824.They were actually living in the house called Decoy in Watton when my grandfather was born in 1865. Great grandfather moved to Hutton Cranswick at some point. He was certainly living there in 1881. His wife was Hannah Jarrett, born in Hutton Cranswick. I think the father of John Jefferson senior was Richard Kirby born about 1791 married to Mary Stephenson but I am relying on someone else's research at this point. I hope this helps you. I would welcome any further info. if you have it.
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Margaretkirby
Average Member
21 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2006 : 12:11:06 PM
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| I have details of Richard Kirby and Mary Stephensons family and believe they are related to my husbands family. I live about 5 or 6 miles from Decoy farm (River Hull in between so 22 miles by road) at Leven, and have visited many of the farms. If you send me you e-mail I will send you the file I have. |
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frank croft
Starting Member
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Posted - 19 Mar 2006 : 10:48:52 PM
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Hi Margaret,
Just noticed your message.
My mother is a Kirby, and the line is traced back to Middleton on the Wolds and Tibthorpe.
The family migrated to Manchester mid 19c, I assume it was to find work when the farming collapsed. I can remember my gt aunt, also a Kirby, saying that she used to visit Cranswick to see relatives, but I have no details.
I have Abram Thompson Kirby, b Tibthorpe 1854, father Witty Kirby b 1819, father Mathew Kirby b 1784. The latter kept a pub in Middleton (Rose & Crown) built by William Witty, hence the Witty connection.
If you can expand on this I would be most interested.
Rgds Frank D Croft |
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DF
Senior Member Member
United Kingdom
140 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2006 : 5:11:31 PM
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My Grandmother was Alice Kirby born Fridaythorpe 1876.
One of my Grandmother's Brothers farmed at Grange Farm, Middleton on the Wolds in 1931. Probably a 100 years after your Kirbys left!
Have you found any connection to this family[?]
DF
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Mark Elliott
Average Member
Canada
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 8:18:42 PM
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| Do any of you have a connection with a Jane Kirby, born April 11, 1833? I am not sure where she was born, or who her parents were. She immigrated to Canada in 1850-51 where she married my 3x great grandfather, William Henry Dixon, born Dec 24, 1826 in Fridaythorpe. Not sure if they new each other before leaving England as they apparently left the same year according to the census. |
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jeanfinch
Average Member
Australia
25 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 05:48:06 AM
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| I have a Richard Kirby b 1830 Watton m Elizabeth b 1835 Watton.1861 census living at 4 Village St Kilnwick occ Ag Lab. Children Joanna b 1853 Watton, John R b 1855 Kilnwick, Margaret Amelia b 1858 Kilnwick,William b 1860 Kilnwick. My connection Margaret Amelia m George Gosley 1879 he started life as an Ag Lab. 1901 census with Margaret they are Publicans at the Old White Swan Hotel, York.Does anyone have more info on Margaret where she died etc. Jean Finch |
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whytockav@aol.com
Starting Member
France
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Posted - 30 Aug 2008 : 08:57:21 AM
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Hello Ken Holmes
I am researching the Kirbys of Nafferton and found your message posted in 2005. Can you help me prior to Elizabeth Kirby b 7.12.1797. I live in France and trips to Yorkshire are difficult
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j
Above Average Member
England
58 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2008 : 3:38:16 PM
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From the IGI
Elizabeth Kirby christened 07 DEC 1797 Nafferton, Yorkshire, to Thomas and Ursella.
A Thomas married URSULA HORNBY 21 OCT 1794 Bridlington,
The only URSULA HORNBY I can find Christening: FEB 1769 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
There are several Thomas Kirbys but:
THOMAS KIRBY Christening: 12 NOV 1764 Lund Near Beverley,to Richard
There are several Richard Kirbys but:
a Richard Kirby married ALICE FISHER 17 JUN 1753 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
A RICHARD KIRBY Christening: 13 NOV 1723 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley, to Robert
Robert Kirby married MARY MATTHEWS 11 DEC 1720 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
Several Roberts - many from Huggate - so leave it with you.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=search_all1.asp&clear_form=true
I hope this helps - I enjoyed the search
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LaurieKirby
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 Oct 2008 : 10:48:40 AM
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I have been researching the descendants of Robert Kirby, yeoman and church warden of Huggate, dates approx. 1700 to 1759 or 1764. (With so many Robert Kirbys in the parish it's difficult to tell whether "my" Robert was the one who died in 1759 or the one who died in 1764.) Robert married Jane Bradley of Kirkburn in 1722 and they had several children. I have traced descendants of two sons: Stephen (from whom my husband is descended) and Nicholas. Another son Francis may have married in an adjacent parish (I would need to make the link firm as I'm going by dates and names, not definite links to place), but I have no further information.
It is possible that the enclosures of Huggate parish in the mid-1700s were responsible for the departure of most or all of Robert's children.
Stephen Kirby moved to Terrington (probably in or near Castle Howard) and probably farmed there for a time. All his children were born and baptised in Terrington parish. He then moved his family on Lady Day 1784 to Carlton House Farm near Helmsley. One branch of the family continued to farm there into the 1970s. The branch my husband is descended from moved first to Rievaulx where they farmed High Leys and thence westward to Kilburn and finally down into Osgoodby/Bagby area before finally decamping in the 1890s to Huntington.
I am happy to share any information I have and would welcome any information from anyone (including speculation!) that might help me trace the other descendants of Robert and Jane. Email me at laukel AT waitrose DOT com please. PS I live in Sussex so don't get to Yorkshire very often -- so I'm afraid I can't help with anything requiring a visit there. |
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Margaretkirby
Average Member
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Posted - 15 Nov 2008 : 10:25:43 AM
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| Kath Richard Kirby bprn between 4.5.1791 and 3 May 1792 (based on age at marriage and death) married 9.2.1813 when he said his age was 21, to MARIA PECK, daughter of John Peck. They farmed at Watton (standinholm probably) and had 11 children in Jefferson Kirby. I now live at Leven, which is only about 3 or 4 miles away. I have a full family tree if it helps, |
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2008 : 5:15:07 PM
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Margaret,
I have Richard Kirby's birthdate as about 1793 (Baptised 17 Jul 1793 at High Catton), son of Jonathan Kirby (c.1767) and Frances Jefferson (c.1771) and brother to Ruth Kirby (c1796) and Phebe Kirby (1798).
I'd be interested to hear whether you think this is the right Richard?
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ChrisC
Junior Member
France
7 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2008 : 4:15:32 PM
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| I have a Tom Kirby born 1884 in Hutton Cranswick. I don't seem to be able to track further back. Anybody got him in their tree? |
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chrisnoboys
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Apr 2009 : 4:25:36 PM
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Hi Kath. We seem to share a family. Your grandfather John Jefferson Kirby born 1866 in Watton was brother to Jane Kirby b 1856 my great grandmother. Their father was John Jefferson Kirby farm bailiff married to Hannah Jarret of Hutton Cranswick. Yes John J Kirby senior's father was Richard Kirby b 1791 and married to Mary Stephenson b 1796. It seems Richard and Mary had 10 children which mirrored the other Richard Kirby m to Maria Peck who also lived in Watton and had 10 children. Do you have any idea if these large families with the same name are connected?
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chrisnoboys
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 3:21:45 PM
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Originally posted by Margaretkirby
I have details of Richard Kirby and Mary Stephensons family and believe they are related to my husbands family. I live about 5 or 6 miles from Decoy farm (River Hull in between so 22 miles by road) at Leven, and have visited many of the farms. If you send me you e-mail I will send you the file I have.
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chrisnoboys
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Apr 2009 : 3:23:08 PM
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Originally posted by Margaretkirby
I have details of Richard Kirby and Mary Stephensons family and believe they are related to my husbands family. I live about 5 or 6 miles from Decoy farm (River Hull in between so 22 miles by road) at Leven, and have visited many of the farms. If you send me you e-mail I will send you the file I have.
Dear Margaret
I chanced upon the Driffield online forum and was most interested in your postings. My mother's family come from the Driffield area. Her mother's mother (my great grandmother) is Jane Kirby the daughter of John Jefferson Kirby of Watton and Hannah Jarrett of Hutton Cranswick. Apparently she was one of 6 children of this marriage. I noticed an old message on the forum from Kath(?) whose grandfather was one of Jane's brothers.
However, I am interested in John Jefferson's birth family ( Richard Kirby married to Mary Stephenson producing 10 children).
My late grandmother told me that there were 2 parallel families in Watton village both called Kirby ( Richard Kirby m Maria Peck) and both with many children. Maybe this is your family? Are they related in any way? it would be good to know.
Hope this reaches you
Best wishes
Chris Thomson
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Lesley Johnson
Starting Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 09:52:10 AM
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I've only just started researching my family tree but I have got Witty Kirby b. 1820 in Middleton in my line. Witty is my Great Great Great Grandfather.
I have found that one of Witty's daughters Adah married Thomas Stephenson Consitt and their daughter Amelia emigrated to Canada with her husband Walter Blythe. In 1909 Walter murdered Amelia leaving 2 children and Adah travelled to Canada to bring the children back to Yorkshire. |
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2009 : 8:03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Lesley Johnson
I've only just started researching my family tree but I have got Witty Kirby b. 1820 in Middleton in my line. Witty is my Great Great Great Grandfather.
I have found that one of Witty's daughters Adah married Thomas Stephenson Consitt and their daughter Amelia emigrated to Canada with her husband Walter Blythe. In 1909 Walter murdered Amelia leaving 2 children and Adah travelled to Canada to bring the children back to Yorkshire.
Hi Lesley.
I have a collection of Canadian press cuttings about the murder, trial, death sentence and the public appeal which resulted in the sentence being reduced to life imprisonment.
I'd be happy to email scanned images of the cuttings if you can get your email address to me somehow.
Regards,
Ian
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karenn
Starting Member
Australia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 1:10:48 PM
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I am Karen and I live in Australia. Amelia Consitt was my great great grandmother. I obtained details of Walter Blythe's crime from the Canadian Archives. My grandmother Rosie was transported along with her brother Reg from Canada when she was 2 years old. I believe uncle (Albert or Arthur from Consitt family)we have since been advised that Adah, Amelia's mother travelled to Canada to return children home to UK. My father is John Kirby Norris and my parents wedding photo includes Gran Kirby and Gran Clayton (Gran Kirby's daughter) still have lots to research. Remember an aunt - Mary from Middleton. Remember Cranswick as being home to the Consitt's. Have researched via census re Consitt and Blythe families. Would love to hear more. Karenn.
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 10:53:10 PM
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Karen,
I have your father John and his sister Catherine as children of John and Rosie (Rosamund Dora Blythe) Norris - but no other details about them. I was in touch with your father's 1st cousin Robert (Bob) Norris in Derbyshire a few years ago. We exchanged a few emails but I've not heard from him since October 2007. However, I was in touch with his daughter, Helen (Norris) Rowlands in March 2009. She sent me a couple of photos, including one of Jack and Rosie's wedding.
My family has 3 or 4 connections with the Kirby and Consitt families. My database system tells me that I'm your father's 6th cousin, and therefore your 6th cousin once removed. So, Hi there cousin!!
I also got details of Walter Blythe's crime from the Canadian Archives. I asked them a simple question and, without prompting or charge, a kind researcher photocopied and posted me a whole raft of press cuttings.
Can you remember who the aunt Mary in Middleton was? My dad is from Middleton - I lived there for the first month after I was born. My grandad ran the village garage. One of my grandad's brothers, Wilfred Soanes (1906-1960) married Frances Mary Consitt (1907-1992). I always knew her as Aunty Mary. She lived in "Sunnyside" in Station Road, Middleton, the house where my grandad, John Soanes, was born. I guess there were many other aunt Marys in Middleton but it would be great if she is the one you remember.
I have lots of Rosie's ancestors - some of the oldest ones being =>
- Ralph Stephenson - 1739 Hutton Cranswick [3x gt grandfather]
- Christopher Railton - c1610 [7x gt grandfather]
- Marmaduke Simpson - 1733 Bainton [4x gt grandfather]
- John Kirby - c1760 [3x gt grandfather]
- Henry Anderson - c1688 Middleton [6x gt grandfather]
If you can send me your email address - perhaps via Bob Norris or Helen Rowlands or maybe via the Driffield Forum Admin - I'd be pleased to send you details.
Regards,
Ian Soanes
Kent, UK
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karenn
Starting Member
Australia
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Posted - 21 Jul 2010 : 12:43:06 PM
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Hi Ian, thanks so much for your response, Yes my dad is John and Cath his sister. Thanks so much for the details contained here. I will gather details and would love to send you photos I have. I would love to see photos of Walter and Amelia! I may have a photo of Walter (according to an aunt!) I have a photo of my grandmother Rosie when whe was about 9 or 10, she was with Amelia's family, I will quiz my Dad tomorrow re Aunty Mary, she always welcomed us and made us feel at home, we always looked forward to visiting her at Middleton. regards Karen.
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Ian Soanes
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
216 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2010 : 7:44:30 PM
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Thanks Karen.
eMail on its way.
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